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The Hear’Say And Liberty X Feud That Changed British Pop

33 minutes | Thursday, 30 July 2026

Before The X Factor, there was Popstars - the reality show that created Hear’Say, led to Liberty X and changed British pop culture overnight.

Myleene Klass and Michelle Heaton share what really happened behind the scenes, from being thrown into overnight fame and branded winners and losers, to the press-fuelled rivalry between the two groups, the money they never saw and the mismanagement that helped bring it all crashing down.

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(00:00) Intro

(00:30) How Michelle Was Cast on Popstars

(03:41) What Happened After Popstars Ended?

(06:33) How Liberty X Was Formed

(10:44) The Manufactured Rivalry Between Liberty X and Hear'Say

(13:54) The Rise and Success of Liberty X

(15:54) How Myleene Klass Was Cast on Popstars

(17:45) How Popstars Changed Myleene Klass's Life

(21:49) The Wild West of the Music Industry in the 2000s

(25:33) Why Hear'Say Split Up

(29:06) Myleene Klass's Favourite Memory From Hear'Say
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The Hear’Say And Liberty X Feud That Changed British Pop
We Need To Talk with Paul C. Brunson

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